More than 200 environmental groups demand halt to new US datacenters | Congress urged to act against energy-hungry facilities blamed for increasing bills and worsening climate crisis
www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/08/us-data…
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Yes, please, this has gone too far, I'm so done with tech bro technofuedalism
Too bad.
They have the money so we all have to be their bitches.
Nah, just need to break the social taboo around breaking the rich and powerful. I want to commit viking raids apon these profligates with all the bad that comes with.
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Oh man they're totally going to do that. It'll be like China's housing boom but with commercial construction. Anthropic and OpenAI will start building data centers with the promise of putting a data farm inside. Except there will never be enough hardware to fill the space, that won't matter. They'll be able to sell investors on the promise of data dominance.
I’ll bet you $100 what side Congress will take in the matter, and it will be on the side of money.
I look forward to my first $400 power bill.
I'm so fucking tired of the cynical voice in my head being right all the time. I read this headline and immediately thought of Arthur Dent face down in the mud in front of a bulldozer.
I'm already there buddy. My power usage has not changed but my bill has tripled it feels.
A significant contribution to that is residential power effectively subsidizes data centers for AI.
I long for those days, but live in a place where electric prices have been high for a while.
A couple months ago I got a heat pump installed but was unable to get solar before the incentives are gone. The heat pump functions down to any temperature but the cost threshold is like 45°F ….. and it’s currently 8°F outside. Unless they let us build a lot more solar and wind we’ll never be able to transition to cleaner appliances
Power is more expensive, ram is more expensive, GPU's are more expensive.
AI can fucking go die now. Fuck Ai.
Corporations and business owners will find any excuse, data centers or not to raise prices. However, I would be concerned with water consumption to keep the servers cool.
Perhaps they can invest in additional power transmission and clean generation.
Never thought I’d say this but for my area apparently it’s the Jones’s Act. Here in New England as we shut down coal and nuclear we were never able to get natural gas pipelines. Now that there are better options our attempts to build power distribution lines keep getting blocked. Our offshore wind farms keep getting blocked. We’re stuck on natural gas but without a pipeline we’re stuck importing LNG by ship and because of the Jones Act and there being no American built LNG ships, the only choice is importing from other countries
Let us build our wind farms. Help coordinate with other states so we can build long distance power lines to our buddies in Ontario
The datacenter bubble is a Republican chance to platform energy independence, cheap and available energy. Build more businesses, help the economy …. Let’s create solar and wind incentives to speed that up and let’s go gangbusters on power distribution to make America great.
Forget these natural gas turbines on a five year back order. Are they made in American? I didn’t think so. Time to go gangbuster on solar where most of the cost is local labor
This is kinda stupid. The centers shouldn't be stopped but taxed appropriately.
We will never need less energy in compute period. So it makes no sense to artificially limit it, instead it needs to be priced to the point where it's net positive for environment rather than net negative and if any industry has the incentives and money for this it's tech.
I wish I could say we'll be laughing when all of this fails and all those investments dry up like rain in the desert.
But that will come with a cripplingly heavy toll for all regular people everywhere. When these DC's are abandoned, so will they be. We're already seeing the start of this from people living near these DC's who no longer have safe access to water, a good night's sleep or clean air...
I honestly don't think we need a moratorium on new datacenters. However, local governments should stop cutting datacenter operators deals. They should not get any tax breaks that other businesses do not get, and local utilities should be able to charge them more for their power and water.
Use the datacenters to subsidize the rest of us
These companies have the money, after all.
And while a datacenter might employ lots of people while it's being constructed, once it is running it doesn't take a big staff to operate at all. If a local government wants to create jobs, there are much better ways to do it.
I totally agree with all 200 of them. Apart from environment/climate issues, this will once again allow the US to dominate a market through reckless lack of regulation. In other words, on the backs of not only our planet but also people who do not benefit from it at all.
Just one example: one of Musk's datacenters runs on gas-powered generators! The air is so bad that people who live nearby are getting sick already.
I don't mind datacenters.
Can they just be built away from people's resources?
Also instead of stopping new ones - shut down aws or google cloud. Fuck em
At what point are more radical groups going to take matters into their own hands? There are quicker ways to halt data centers, and it's only a matter of time until some people are negatively affected enough to halt them themselves.
For the record, we need to engrain these systemic changes to make it easier to change in the future, and avoid any actual violence or damage to infrastructure. However, it seems like Big Oil and their puppets in Congress don't want to do it the easy way.
I totally agree with all 200 of them. Apart from environment/climate issues, this will once again allow the US to dominate a market through reckless lack of regulation. In other words, on the backs of not only our planet but also people who do not benefit from it at all.
Just one example: one of Musk's datacenters runs on gas-powered generators! The air is so bad that people who live nearby are getting sick already.
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